Teen Gothic

I saw this poster on the back of a youtuber's wall and I have been trying to find where its from but unable to do so. Can someone help me out w this please?

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Ok, I'm a complete babybat and I'm still learning about all this. The quote from the title is NOT something that I said but it was something an "elder experienced goth" told me and I'm not sure whether that person is being truthful or not.

This elder Goth talks about how Goth "HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PUNK" because "goth was the opposite reaction to the ultra political movement of punk and it's only based in art and every sociopolitical expression should be discarded immediately from the subculture" According to this person "Goth is Apolitical"

This elder Goth also separates the Punk from the Post Punk movement and says that "Post Punk was created out of this "'Punk is dead' realization and it's meant to NOT be political at all because it seeks the opposite of what Punk was = zero involvement in politics" This person also discards ABSOLUTELY any kind of DIY because "DIY derives from Punk and the Goth Subculture was created from Post Punk NOT from the Punk movement, so it's NOT related at all"

That's sounds really interesting ngl, most of us have the idea that Goth was a direct product of punk but this "elder wise goth" makes a distinction between Punk and Post Punk and explains that Goth was born out of Post Punk as a backlash from Punk politics.

What y'all think about this, do you really think that Goth is COMPLETELY APOLITICAL AND ANY SOCIOPOLITICAL POSITION SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISCARDED BECAUSE GOTH IS APOLITICAL (?????????????????)

I'm going to be honest, I'm not 100% sure about what this person told me because this "elder wise goth" is a transphobic and has stalked and has harassed others Goths online with the excuse of "correcting them" about the origins of the subculture.

There's more goth bands out there than you can shake a stick at and a vast number of them were small outfits with few releases and next to no presence online. There's something special and enchanting about the obscure goth band. The band that never really went anywhere, the band that could have been great but never got there and faded away into a murky obscurity. Especially since in the current online landscape it's much harder than ever before to be obscure. Many, many of these small goth bands struggled uphill and it did not pay off for them. Most of them simply broke apart.

I find that sort of melancholy, that sense of unfulfilled dreams and sense of loss to be fitting! I often find myself pondering, yearning and thinking about the obscure bands that I've listened to that now exist only as cult, underground stuff to be appreciated by a small circle of people, or sometimes not even that. Sometimes they exist only as a memory, a band someone once saw back in the late 80's and early 90's, someone may have their original tape or vinyl stashed away somewhere.

I feel like we often focus on just a rotating cast of well known bands, so it'd be sweet for everyone to have a chance to throw out a really obscure band that is your personal obsession. They deserve it.

My personal pick is Shamefaces. Active for only a few months from 1992 to 1993 and with only two cassette releases, and only two songs available on YouTube, A Tale of Two Men and Shadowboy. Very little info on them online besides the band member names, most of whom have moved on from the goth scene it seems, but some are still active musicians.

Previously, they were a different obscure band, Dëx Cröix. They released one (REALLY good) EP and have a YouTube account that's over 15 years old and only has some really poor quality recordings of them in a Battle of the Bands tournament in 1988.

So, what's yours?

Hey guys,

i am a big Fan of the whole goth subculture and espically the music. I am not really looking like a goth or so but i enjoy the people and understand me with them pretty good when meeting them. Sadly i dont know where to go or where i find goths or atleast people that are also fans of the whole topic. I want to connect more with the culture and so try to find some people to talk with that are also into it.

I am a introvert and have problems with masses of people, so concerts or huge events are really not my thing. Also i am just 16 and cant really go into a bar or so(i dont know).

So…. maybe someone can help me find some places(online or irl) where i can connect with some teen goths.

At best would be places around the south or eastern Germany.

Much thanks in advance and sorry for grammar mistakes.

big day for me specifically, felt like you should know too

Nothing like listening to a goth playlist and hearing the singers wet sticky lips in the microphone

Sucks it’s a banger too.

feel like it's becoming more fashion than music. I've always had a problem with labels because everyone interprets goth in a different way, for example I never shared this hobby with my mother because I know how she will react so I keep it from me and her. Is there any sense in telling her this? No.

She won't understand what it is. When you describe a person as a goth, it automatically sounds weird to a lot of people.

And it's funny because it turned into something super dramatic. It's all about the music you listen to. So what is Goth actually? A person who likes gothic music? A person who dresses gothic? Because a lot of people like the style but they don't really know about the music and that's okay.

I feel that most people see it as a super weird and super alternative label that makes a person super weird just because they dress a certain way. For example: a few days ago I showed my aunt a shirt with a skull and she said "Until now when I saw people wearing such a shirt I thought they were super strange" as if I made her understand that it is not a big deal and it is not that strange.

I hate being told "you look goth" beyond the fact that I don't really look goth most of the time. I don't look goth I am goth because I listen to goth music.

It's hard to explain my point, and maybe it's just because of where I live, but it really annoys me.